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Old 10-02-2006, 02:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Got a brand new P533 that is lacking anything close to what a 50# class reel should have in the drag dept. I replaced the stock drags with carbonex, and no grease. I took the reel back to Newell Mfg. today for some clues as to what can be done, but was chastised for replaceing the drags as they were convinced that's what the problem is. Any clues or modes that some one can turn me on to would be much appreciated. The reel was to be a jig caster for Wahoo, but in it's present state it's useless.
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Old 10-02-2006, 02:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Newell does not recomend ANYTHING but their own drag washers. Which of course you have to buy from them or from a shop that did! I have been using the Carbontex washers in my 533 and 540 lightly greased now for over a year and I like them. They are very smooth but I do find I have to button down the star pretty hard to be able to pull like I want to.

Jerry, (reel man), is the Newell expert here. Maybe he can chime in about how you might get a little more drag using the Carbontex washers.


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Old 10-02-2006, 02:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Just checked my 533 5.5 reels on a spring scale, and with HT100's, dry, I am getting 13# with the possiblity of 15# if it was really cranked down.

The other reel has a set of Smooothy Extremes, dry, am getting 18, but really cranked down, 20#'s of drag.

I know the HT's hold well, and the Carbontex's are pretty much the same material should be about the same for performance and durability.

The Extremes have been work very well in Trinidads on the hoos and tails so am anxious to see how they perform in the Newells on my 10 day.

Pray for hoos!!!
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I've been using the smoothie extremes in my two 533's for the last couple years. 18# is just about what I get. No complaints at all, except from the wahoo!!
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Old 10-02-2006, 10:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I had the same problem with a P338. I took it in, got a brand new drag stack to try... tried it, no help... took it in and dropped it off. They looked at it, replaced the drags again, even replaced a few other parts although the reel was brand new (???). I left it an extra week to have it "tested," and still same result. What I tried was adding one HT100 drag washer on top of one of the Newell washers. It actually helped a little, but still not the solution I would like.

Jerry, I sent you an email, but don't know if you got it. I'm pretty darn tired of trying to fix this thing and I refuse to put in aftermarkerts. My R332 gets much better drag than this P338 does and I just can't understand it. I'm just tired of it and will keep my 332 and buy another Torium I guess...
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Get me the P338 and I'll see if what I can do.
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Try adding a thin bevelled washer, or a wave washer on the outside of the reel under the star. Some Newells seem to be a little loose, and just need something to fill in the extra space.

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Old 10-03-2006, 08:30 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I love my Newells, but as I get more experienced and fish higher drag settings, I have been a little peeved that they advertise the 500 series as having 35# drags, and the 600 as 45# drags. I have never heard of anyone getting anywhere close to this, even tightening the star with the assistance of tools. Best I have ever done, with Xsmoothies, is around 20#.

Amazingly, I get better drag from my old 454 than I do any of my 500 series reels.
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Old 10-03-2006, 09:20 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I agree with Jig,I get more pounds of drag out of my 4 series but smoother out of my 5 series.I use extreme smoothies alot but noticed once some oil gets on it,it gets jerky.---Also playing with the belleville washers will help in the performance.I think Newell calls it a tension spring.
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I have a P533 5.5 with the stock drag system, and I can darn near lock it up. I have never been able to get max drag out of my 440's, and have to hammer at the star to get usable drag out of them. Wonder if thicker aftermarket drags might do the trick, as the problem seems to be one of too much space/play in the entire spindle assembly.

One complaint I have heard over the years regarding Newells is the difficulty in locking up the drag system. I have had to really hammmer at the star on a lot of Newells when I need to break off with them.

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