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Old 06-14-2012, 01:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I just found this on the DFG website: http://www.fgc.ca.gov/regulations/2012/27_65isor.pdf http://www.fgc.ca.gov/regulations/2012/27_65ntc.pdf I'm surprised that this has not been publicized more on the various fishing websites. This could actually be a good thing. Not sure why this was not thought of 10 years ago or more.

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Old 06-14-2012, 01:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I love fishing for Calicos,and they are usually my target species since most of my fishing is inshore.
I've seen and heard and read of alot of abuse to this resource,I've been fishing the LB,SP,area and Redondo,for approximately 50yrs+and there is no doubt things have changed.
Even about 20yrs ago we used to go out to an area we called the 3/4mile spot,and catch and release 40-60 Calicos almost every-time we fished there.
Now were happy if we catch and release a handful between 2guys,of course there is still those far and few between days when the fish go off and you may catch and release a couple of limits,but I think any one who loves this resource,calicos and sandies,would have to agree we need some updated regulations,JMO.


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Old 06-14-2012, 02:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I agree Tunavic1. The cattle boats have been slaying them for years (especially during spawn season) and now they may have to pay the piper.

I remember when we used to get brown bait, small pompano, and spanish macks, mixed in with the live chovies and sardines at the bait barge / receiver back in the '70s and '80s. Calico fishing was pretty darn good then.
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I would support any or all of the listed options: 1) slot limit, 2) reduction of bag limit and 3) no harvesting during the spawn. Maybe just me, but I'm not a fan of boat limits either as they are a loophole for options 1 and 2.

Yes, it will further hurt the sport boats, which are already hurting. But IMHO if we don't rein in catches now, there will be none in the future, and that will whittle away at the sport fleet until its eliminated entirely. Look at how Mediterranean bluefin and swordfish catches have plummetted, and contrast that with how Alaska has maintained a healthy sport fishing industry.
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I like the idea of a 12-20" slot limit and reduced bag limit... I can support 5 total with no more then 3 of 1 species for Bass. WSB limit of 1 year round would be fine too. I tanker is more than enough. This is actually management as opposed to the MLPA BS. With rules like these I don't know that a seasonal Sand Bass closure would be needed.
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This has been a long time in coming and should probably have been done a while ago. A lot of the hardcore calico guys have been practicing catch and release for many years now. Even some of the sport boats used to weigh in big calicos on digital scales and then release them, but not nearly enough.

I recall almost 20 years ago fishing on dad's boat, there was a boiler rock we'd fish if we'd had a slow day. There were always a good number of calicos there including some sizable specimens. Two of the local 6 pack boats started taking notice of where we were fishing and six months after they started fishing the spot you couldn't buy a calico there anymore.

I'm all in favor of reduced catch limits and perhaps even the slot limits.
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Reduced bag limit would be fine by me. Who needs 10? Slot limit...always seemed like 12" fish was on the small side. Just to give the sporties a break, why not do it in increments? 13, 13-1/2, 14, 14-1/2, 15 or ??? inches on the minimum side to ??? maximum.
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If the health of a species of fish can be adequately controlled with slot limits, smaller bag limits and seasonal closures, then why did we need the MLPA's at all? What fish are protected by them that cannot be protected by the same rules and limits that are proposed for bass? I would support the options on the table and whish this was the answer or alternative the MLPA's.
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I agree that we need to change the rules - we've been though that before . . . but I still think the Humbolt squid did more harm to the sandbass in one year than the local sport boats have done. . .
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If the health of a species of fish can be adequately controlled with slot limits, smaller bag limits and seasonal closures, then why did we need the MLPA's at all? What fish are protected by them that cannot be protected by the same rules and limits that are proposed for bass? I would support the options on the table and wish this was the answer or alternative the MLPA's.

You brought up an excellent point. There are going to be several public DFG meetings regarding the proposed changes for the bass at various locations before the end of this year. This would be great to bring up and mention to the DFG.
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