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Old 06-25-2012, 11:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thoughts? Movement seems to be gaining momentum. I noticed H&M is on the list.. Is there anything wrong with taking the occasional mako or thresher for the table?

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Thoughts? Movement seems to be gaining momentum. I noticed H&M is on the list.. Is there anything wrong with taking the occasional mako or thresher for the table?
No there isn't anything wrong with it. But the operative word there is "occasional". That's something that a lot of the "weekend warrior" crowd seems to ignore.

Back when thresher fishing was first becoming a big deal, (Around 20 - 25 years ago.), you'd see pictures in Western Outdoor News of the same guys every weekend with a 100 - 400 lb. thresher hanging up at the Dana Point fuel dock scale. These groups/boats were catching dozens of threshers a season. There was no way that they could have eaten nearly all of what they caught, and they were not commercial fishing.

After that makos became a target, and then other species. I recall seeing one 22' runabout with 4 guys in it, coming back into Newport Harbor one afternoon with at least 9 blue sharks strapped down to the swim step. I seriously doubt that they intended to eat them!

Given that, and knowing that shark stocks are becoming depleted world wide, I'm in agreement with the "shark free marina" concept. That is a decision left to the operators of the marina. It may cost them money and customers, but they have every right to declare they are "shark free" if they desire.
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Its all about responsibility,theres nothing wrong with sustainable harvest.
What is wrong is the enity behind the link,
HSUS FK EM.
Might as well burn your tackle as have anything to do with this.
You think they will stop with sharks?
They are attacking us from every angle.

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Its all about responsibility,theres nothing wrong with sustainable harvest.
What is wrong is the enity behind the link,
HSUS FK EM.
Might as well burn your tackle as have anything to do with this.
You think they will stop with sharks?
They are attacking us from every angle.

Mike
F ?em Indeed.

All banning sharks in marinas will do is punish people already following the rules. A-holes that indiscriminately kill for the sake of killing will continue to do so, they just won?t take their photos at the dock.
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lines are being drawn in the sand....



TO THE INDUSTRY:
The national Shark Free Marina movement is sponsored by the Humane Society of the United States, Pew Environmental Group, and supported by Guy Harvey, and Doug Olander of Sport Fishing Magazine. The effort is to have marinas register as being ?shark free? and not allowing any shark to be brought back to their marina docks. There are 157 marinas nationwide that have already signed on.

The Big Game Fishing Journal believes this is a back door tactic by the environmental community, supported by a few misguided and misinformed individuals to shutdown another game fish to recreational fishing. We also believe that Guy Harvey?s intentions are honorable, but his statement that recreational fishermen kill hundreds of thousands of sharks annually is completely untrue. The recreational shark fishermen are the most conservation-minded anglers in the nation. They constantly practice tag and release methods and only bring in mature, edible species of sharks for the dinner table.

The problem sharks are current experiencing today is not the fault of the American shark fishermen. We believe if the environmental community was sincere in helping the plight of the shark, they would turn their shark saving efforts and their money toward foreign countries and their commercial fleets. They are the true cause of the problem. We also believe that fishery management and the decision to shut down a game fish fishery should only be left to competent fishery managers, not anti-fishing environmental groups, or owners or dock masters of the nation?s marinas.

To nip this anti-fishing movement in the bud, the Big Game Fishing Journal will sponsor a Shark Smart Marina effort. This movement will let the public know that the marinas registered sign on to the ideology that only edible sharks should be landed and all others released. They also believe that common sense and good conservation tactics should always be used when fishing for sharks. This Shark Smart Marina effort is an ideology held by marinas that sign on. The movement is not being created to have marinas ?dictate? and demand compliance. It is being created to let the public know that we as shark fishermen are not the ignorant, mindless killers of sharks as the environmental community would have them believe. We believe in killing only what we intend to eat, always practicing sound shark conservation procedures and always respect the game fish by limiting what you kill, using a dehooker and practicing proper release methods.

For those companies that support the ideology of the Shark Smart Marina effort, please contact us here at the Journal, 800 827 4468 or via email at captlen@biggamefishingjournal.com, supply us your company logo, and we will list your organization on our soon to be constructed Shark Smart Marina Facebook page, our web site and on a page in the Big Game Fishing Journal letting everyone know you support the Shark Smart Marina ethic. If you own or manage a marina, call us at 800 827 4468 and we will provide you a sign for your dock that reads:

SHARK SMART MARINA
We Are Pro-Fishing.

Captain Len Belcaro
Publisher Big Game Fishing Journal
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TO THE INDUSTRY:
The national Shark Free Marina movement is sponsored by the Humane Society of the United States, Pew Environmental Group, and supported by Guy Harvey, and Doug Olander of Sport Fishing Magazine. The effort is to have marinas register as being ?shark free? and not allowing any shark to be brought back to their marina docks. There are 157 marinas nationwide that have already signed on.

The Big Game Fishing Journal believes this is a back door tactic by the environmental community, supported by a few misguided and misinformed individuals to shutdown another game fish to recreational fishing. We also believe that Guy Harvey?s intentions are honorable, but his statement that recreational fishermen kill hundreds of thousands of sharks annually is completely untrue. The recreational shark fishermen are the most conservation-minded anglers in the nation. They constantly practice tag and release methods and only bring in mature, edible species of sharks for the dinner table.

The problem sharks are current experiencing today is not the fault of the American shark fishermen. We believe if the environmental community was sincere in helping the plight of the shark, they would turn their shark saving efforts and their money toward foreign countries and their commercial fleets. They are the true cause of the problem. We also believe that fishery management and the decision to shut down a game fish fishery should only be left to competent fishery managers, not anti-fishing environmental groups, or owners or dock masters of the nation?s marinas.

To nip this anti-fishing movement in the bud, the Big Game Fishing Journal will sponsor a Shark Smart Marina effort. This movement will let the public know that the marinas registered sign on to the ideology that only edible sharks should be landed and all others released. They also believe that common sense and good conservation tactics should always be used when fishing for sharks. This Shark Smart Marina effort is an ideology held by marinas that sign on. The movement is not being created to have marinas ?dictate? and demand compliance. It is being created to let the public know that we as shark fishermen are not the ignorant, mindless killers of sharks as the environmental community would have them believe. We believe in killing only what we intend to eat, always practicing sound shark conservation procedures and always respect the game fish by limiting what you kill, using a dehooker and practicing proper release methods.

For those companies that support the ideology of the Shark Smart Marina effort, please contact us here at the Journal, 800 827 4468 or via email at captlen@biggamefishingjournal.com, supply us your company logo, and we will list your organization on our soon to be constructed Shark Smart Marina Facebook page, our web site and on a page in the Big Game Fishing Journal letting everyone know you support the Shark Smart Marina ethic. If you own or manage a marina, call us at 800 827 4468 and we will provide you a sign for your dock that reads:

SHARK SMART MARINA
We Are Pro-Fishing.

Captain Len Belcaro
Publisher Big Game Fishing Journal


Len is right on with The Big Game Fishing Journals stance.
BTW for you West Coasters, even though it focuses primarily on the fisheries of the N.E. section of the country, this is a really good publication if you have never had the opportunity to read it.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:30 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Had severe articles published in the edge.

So are the marinas going to kick out the commercial fishermen harvesting sharks, long lines gill nets hook & line purse seine etc. ?

I can see them trying this in San Diego, Los Angeles, Channel Islands, Morrow Bay lol the commercial machine will simply open their own marina and so should sport fishermen but it's insanity the State and federal government is not properly managing our resources causing this fallout from extremist and i'm very disappointed to read who some of the supporters are, sad.

This goes back to sea food labelling giving the environs a shot in the arm towards protecting the fisheries because the fisheries managers will not properly manage our fisheries especially pelagic big game species in this country or others.

The sea food labelling has put a big hit on unsustainable fishing operations but this attempt at attacking selective gear is out of line.

Now it is more important than ever for sport fishermen to insure they are responsible Stuarts of our resources especially harvesting fish that have already had a chance to reproduce first.

The US fisheries need better management and if they did we would be abble to put pressure on other countries and crap like this would be limited.

Backwards move limiting access to sportfishing selective gear considerring we have so much destructive gear coddled by fisheries managers.

We know the numbers are guesstimates on recreational selective gear from phone surveys so i submit it is not accurate but that is besides the point we are dealing with extremist who most likely do not eat meat and donate to Peta.

Extremist want to close marinas for ever to sportfishing and would prefer fish and animals are looked at not eaten circumventing the fisheries managers who seem to be more concerned with this country getting their harvest quota rather than a sustainable yield.

When you look at google earth oceans there are marine closures all over the globe instead of proper management.

I'm going to fire off a few letter this is nuts and i can't believe the supporters.

This will not stop with the east coast west coast just like marine closures and sea food labelling as long as we have extremist and poor fisheries management on a state, national and international level.

The extremist and their supporters should be concerned with destructive gear and fishing in US shark nurseries including protected species.

The destructive gear that is banned inside the US 200 mile EEZ is still allowed to land their harvest inside the US, why ? because the US is colecting taxes from every pound landed big bucks and if they do not harvest the quota they will loose it to another country.

Fox is running the Hen House and extremist can't change them so they are whittling away at what they can where they can and that includes selective gear.

SAIDLY they have infiltrated some of sportfishing notable people but i believe it will be to their detriment.
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I don't know about any other marinas but the ones I've fished out of but any cattle boats I've been on NEVER let anyone land any kind of shark.Big or small.

All the times I've hooked a shark of any kind the deck hand cut it off saying sharks aren't allowed on deck due to insurance problems if somebody got hurt...

Whole shark thing sounds like B.S. to me as far as cattle boats are concerned.

Six packs ,smaller charter boats are probably different.

How are they going to stop a guy in his private boat from putting his boat on his trailer because he caught a shark and kept it?
Whole thing sounds stupid to me...
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I would be in support of an educational show or video from Guy IGFA on sustainable harvesting guidelines in detail especially proper handling and releasing not shutting down marinas. Sport fishermen are responsible for a lot of conservation from releasing juveniles to tag and release for data collection to aid in fisheries management using very selective gear hook and line rod and reel opposed to the fisheries managers who permit destructive long lines and gill nets. Remove the destructive gear then reevaluate the fisheries biomass to responsibly set harvest guidelines not shut down selective sportfishing gear. Inappropriately using marinas to achieve extremist views against selective sportfishing gear instead of proper management insuring a sustainable harvest rather than stopping over harvesting by high by catch destructive none selective gear is wrong from every point except from a extremist point of view who do not want any fish harvested at all.

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